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Review: Toyota Vios 1.3E (2nd Generation)

Author: J. Angelo Racoma Category: Reviews

Wednesday
Sep 16, 2009

2009 Toyota Vios 1.3E (2nd Generation)

In this day and age of economic difficulty, you can’t help but be practical with just about everything. You try to minimize costs, and you try to stretch each and every Peso as much as you can. The same idea trickles down to just about anything from grocery shopping, eating out, buying clothes, and even buying cars.

If you’re on a tight budget, going for a second hand auto might be one option, with a lot of five to ten year old cars going for PhP 200 thousand to PhP 350 thousand and so forth. But when you think of maintenance costs, nothing beats a brand new car. You might be better off putting that money into the down payment. Paying the monthly dues would probably be better (and sometimes cheaper) than monthly repair and maintenance expenses you would be shelling out regularly with an older car.

In terms of practicality, there are three things you would usually look for: utility, ease of maintenance and fuel consumption. In the local market, there are usually two main competitors, which are the Honda City and the Toyota Vios. They are in the same price range (although the City retails a bit higher), have similar fuel consumption ranges, and similar carrying capacity. Both are offered in 1.3 and 1.5 liter displacement engines: VTEC engine for the City and VVT-i engine for the Vios. What’s great is that both brands carry high resale value in the local market.

The past few weeks, I’ve been able to review the E variant Toyota Vios. Featured in review photos is the “Azure” Blue variant. The E variant in the Philippine market is basically similar to the entry-level J variant in that they both run on a 2NZ-FE 1.3 liter engine, but unlike its spartan sibling, the E variant has the following features:

  • power windows,
  • central door locks,
  • 14″ alloy wheels,
  • Anti-lock braking system,
  • protective side mouldings,
  • driver’s-side airbag,
  • Toyota Vehicle Security System,
  • a different stereo head-unit.

2009 Toyota Vios 1.3E (2nd Generation)

The higher-end G variant gives you 15″ alloy wheels, foglamps, side-mirror turn signal lamps, rear disc brakes, and leather-bound steering-wheel with stereo remote-control. And of course, the G variant comes in manual and automatic transmission. You also have a choice of leather vs. fabric seats in the A/T variant. The Vios also comes in the S variant, which comes stock with sporty body kits ducktail spoilers, ten-spoke 17″ wheels and HID headlamps.

Now as with most reviews here, I won’t focus too much on the technical aspects of the car. Perhaps I can leave that to the more experienced auto reviewers (such as this review on Big Big Car). But let’s focus on the review from an everyday driver’s point of view.

Ride comfort

2009 Toyota Vios 1.3E (2nd Generation)

From someone used to a bigger ride, the Vios might at first be a jarring experience. With a shorter wheelbase than most compact cars, you tend to feel road bumps and humps more. Furthermore, the Vios’ suspension is a bit stiffer, compared to, say, the Corolla Altis, especially owing to the non-independent torsion beam rear suspension. I hear, though, that the Vios’ suspension is built for durability, and so I have no qualms against that. Also, the 2nd generation suspension is said to be softer than the 1st generation. So even if it doesn’t have the dampening capabilities of bigger vehicles (such as the recently test-driven Ford Everest or the Nissan Grand Livina, for instance), it’s good enough for a subcompact sedan, in my opinion.

If you’re used to riding the 1st generation (and also the facelifted 1.5 generation) Vios, you would appreciate the added comfort level of the 2nd generation Vios, which is said to have been upgraded in terms of ride comfort. While the 1st gen Vios was built for handling, the 2nd gen is better at comfort. The 2nd gen is heavier by about 100 kilograms, so you won’t win at drag races against the 1st gen, but you will have a more comfortable ride.

Space

2009 Toyota Vios 1.3E (2nd Generation)

Judging from personal experience and from comments from other Toyota users, the 2nd generation Vios offers ample amount of space, which is good enough for a small family. The Vios is said to have bigger cabin space than the previous-generation Corolla Altis and the 1st and 1.5th generation Vios, and almost the same space as the current Corolla Altis. This is achieved through a cab-forward design, and the flat rear floor, which is really a boon for anyone sitting at the middle at the back.

2009 Toyota Vios 1.3E (2nd Generation)

My wife and I have two elementary school aged kids and a new baby, and we comfortably fit in the car. The trunk space is shorter than our Corolla, but this doesn’t stop us from fitting in our MacLaren Techno XLR stroller (umbrella-type) in the trunk, plus the kids’ bags and other accessories. The trunk is shorter and narrower (as compared to a Corolla’s, for instance) but a bit taller. It’s not as big as the latest generation Honda City‘s trunk, though (which is, to say, very big!).

Being used to a bigger car, I noticed, though, that the seats are a bit smaller than what I’d been used to. They call the seats “body hugging” but it’s only now that I realized this meant “smaller!” It needs a bit getting used to, but once you do get used to the smaller seat dimensions, you would be comfortable enough with it. Driver’s side seating position is good enough–the height is adjustable, but I doubt anyone would want to increase seat height, as this might reduce driving comfort (a higher center of gravity might increase the likelihood of carsickness).

Build quality and creature comforts

2009 Toyota Vios 1.3E (2nd Generation)

The solid thud when closing doors seems to be indicative of good build quality. That’s quite a feat from a “made in the Philippines” car (as printed out in a label inside the trunk). One thing I notice, though, which is also evident in Toyota’s other Asian-market vehicles like the IMV Innova, Fortuner and Hi-Lux is the prevalence of hard, cheap-feeling plastic. My old Corolla had some luxury feel to it–at least the plastic is soft and padded!

Still, I don’t think one can complain, given the affordability of the car. It’s not totally a utilitarian affair. The 2nd generation Vios does offer a host of creature comforts. First is the presence of a handful of cup holders and bottle holders. The front cup holders are situated right under the air conditioning vents, which is obviously meant to help keep drinks cool (if you’re drinking hot coffee, then perhaps you can just close the vents). Each front door pocket also has a bottle holder. Even the pockets at the front of the gearshift on both driver and passenger side has bottle holders. The rear only has one cup holder, though, and this has sometimes proved to be troublesome when my two older kids are seated at the back.

2009 Toyota Vios 1.3E (2nd Generation)

Under the steering column, I was surprised to find another small cubby hole, which is probably meant for sunglasses, ID cards, and the like. And what’s a car without a ticket holder for those gas receipts, toll booth coupons and bills for paying the parking. Only one of the sunvisors has a mirror, though, and it’s situated at the driver’s side! Hmm. Maybe the car is designed for the ladies, after all!

In car entertainment

2009 Toyota Vios 1.3E (2nd Generation)

The Vios E comes with a 2DIN integrated-type stereo system, which means it’s built-into the instrument panel. The Vios E’s stereo can play MP3 files (unlike the J, which only has a CD player), which means you can burn your compilation playlists, which is what I did. What’s great with MP3 playback is that you see the ID3 tag details right on the stereo’s screen–perfect for finding that right song. Since starting this review, I haven’t used my iPod much, as I mostly play our favorite iTunes playlists burned onto CD-R.

Security and Safety

2009 Toyota Vios 1.3E (2nd Generation)

The Vios 1.3 E comes with Toyota Vehicle Security System (TVSS), which is basically just your keyless entry system. It’s not as sophisticated as third party systems, because it will only sound the alarm when the doors and trunk are opened, and not when glass is broken, or cut, or when the body is tapped or hit. Other Asian market Vioses comes with immobilizer keys (meaning the car will only start if the key inserted has the correct transmitter chip), but our local variants don’t.

TVSS will be adequate if you’re not too security conscious. But if you are, I suggest you upgrade your alarm system (having an upgrade installed at the casa will not void your electrical warranty as long as you have them note this in the service booklet). It’s also not a good idea to leave valuables in the car when parking in public places. And do buy those steering wheel locks that can discourage theft.

The alarm buttons are situated on the key itself, which is a nice touch. You feel like the Vios is one of those more expensive cars with key-integrated alarm buttons.

Another note about they key–the Vios features alarm buzzer for various scenarios:

  • They key is inserted, the engine is off, and the driver’s side door is open
  • The car is traveling at greater than 25 Kph and the driver’s side seatbelt is not engaged.

Also, the driver’s side door will not lock from the outside without the key. This would help those who are forgetful about their keys by minimizing the possibility of your leaving the keys inside the car or in the ignition. A few other safety features include the “door” lamp staying on a few seconds after doors have closed. So until you turn on the ignition or lock the car thru TVSS, the light will be turned on.

The car will also not start without the clutch fully depressed. This will help avoid scenarios in which you start the car in gear, which could be dangerous. One problem here though–if you forget you’re in gear, you might suddenly release the clutch after starting, thus jolting the car forward (or backward). It happened to me once.

Performance

2009 Toyota Vios 1.3E (2nd Generation)

The E variant comes with a 1300 cc VVT-i engine, which provides just 85 horses under the hood. This is hardly racetrack material, but if you consider the power-to-weight ratio, you would be amazed at what the car can do. The 1.3 variant Vios has been known to reach 190 Kph at clear NLEX, SCTEX and SLEX stretches. I haven’t personally tried this, but I can say I can personally attest to the less-than-10 seconds zero to 100 acceleration.

The Vios E variant does have a relatively short 1st and 2nd gears, though, compared to the 1.5 G variant. This would aid in climbing steep inclines while carrying heavy loads. This can get you easier stop-go acceleration, but might not be as good for those who want quick speed offs when the stoplight turns green.

The new Vios is also equipped with a Drive-by-Wire (DBW) throttle, so those used to cable-type throttles will need getting used to this system. Whenever you step on the gas, you don’t actually pull a lever on the engine. Wires send a signal to the computer box (ECU), which then adjusts the throttle on the engine electronically. This is a boon, in terms of fuel consumption (and the ECU actually adapts to your driving habits), but some users might experience that dreaded acceleration lag.

Driveability

2009 Toyota Vios 1.3E (2nd Generation)

The car’s small size makes it easy to drive in city streets. It’s unbelievably easy to park, too, with a small turning radius (4.9 m). The electric power steering (EPS) also makes turning very light, but with adequate feedback. This is great when parking in tight spots. But when you’re cruising at 120 Kph, the EPS loses its feather-lightedness, for added safety.

Driver seating position is also good enough for me, but someone taller (I’m 5’3″) might have issues, especially with legroom. The cab-forward design means shorter legroom at the front. So those used to longer cars might find issue with this. Also, the steering wheel is tilt-adjusting only, and not telescoping (unlike with the new Corolla Altis and even the new Honda City), which limits usability a bit, if you’re particular with driving position. I like my steering wheel at the lowest position with the Vios. My only complaint is the limited rear visibiltiy, owing to the tall trunk.

As with the 1st generation, the Vios’ instrument panel is situated to the center. This will take getting used to. But the advantage here is that positioning the instrument cluster at this level reduces the need for vertical eye movement. Therefore, you can focus on the road. Yes, it will require horizontal eye movement, but at least your field of vision is still mostly on the road.

The E variant doesn’t have the Optitron gauges, which mostly just means your tachometer and speedometer are brighter. Still, with the E (and with the J variant), you can adjust the brightness of the instrument panel at night, when your headlamps or parking lamps are turned on. The instrument cluster also includes a digital fuel meter, which is right beside the clock. This is excellent for hypermilers out there–it looks like a cellphone battery meter. Each bar is equivalent to about 5 liters of gasoline. The Vios E doens’t have a real-time fuel consumption meter, though, like on the Honda City.

Probably the best Vios feature is its fuel consumption. Reviews at Vios Club Philippines peg it at about 12-14 Km/L city driving and up to 18-20 Km/L highway. Now when it comes to 1.3 vs. 1.5 L, it’s a mixed bag. If you’re mostly driving alone or with just one passenger, then you get the best combination of power and fuel economy with the 1.3 L. But when you’re always fully loaded, you might want to consider the more powerful G variant.

Also, all new Vios owners would probably be appalled at the puny-sounding horn. It’s more like “mit-mit” rather than “beep beep.” Heck, my old car has a stronger horn than the Vios. I read that new cars have puny horns because brands and dealers are trying to contribute to reducing noise pollution.

It’s not as spirited as other sportier cars out there, but I can say the Vios is a fun ride–especially with the high power-to-weight ratio!

The verdict

2009 Toyota Vios 1.3E (2nd Generation)

The Toyota Vios 1.3 E is a practical choice as a daily commuter. It’s good enough for a bachelor, bachelorette, or a small family just starting out in life. Sure, it’s not as high tech and sophisticated as higher-end vehicles out there, but you get a solid, reliable car from a reputable, reliable brand. It’s also a great vehicle for the green-minded individual, because of its fuel efficiency.

Priced at PhP 664,000, you won’t go wrong with the Vios. Toyota Philippines even has an ongoing low-downpayment and easy terms promo (up to September 30th) for the Vios (and Innova). You can get the Vios E for 15% or even 10% downpayment–that’s about PhP 80k++ down payment, and at PhP 13k++ monthly installments for the five-year plan. Most dealers would even give you cash discounts, free registration and/or insurance, and free chattel mortgage for lease-to-own plans (which amounts to about PhP 30k).

If you’re looking for a great deal, I would recommend Toyota Makati. Look for Ms. Maya Generoso at +632 897-3333. Thanks to Toyota Makati for this Azure Blue Vios 1.3E.

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Comments

jensen

March 26th, 2011 at 1:27 pm

ask ko lang yun bang vios 1.3e 2000 model tinatapakan pa ang clutch bago magstart

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    J. Angelo

    March 26th, 2011 at 10:04 pm

    Hi. If you’re referring to model 2007 onwards, yes.

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John

March 27th, 2011 at 5:14 pm

Nice review but how about reliability when it comes to maintenance. I read about a that vios under-chassis is not as tough like the older corollas and the small space in the engine bay makes harder for the mechanic to work. The front wheel drive disadvantage like replacing clutch disk, it takes a lot of parts remove just to reach the clutch. I rather buy the avanza.

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Cars Philippines

April 18th, 2011 at 4:30 pm

Great blog and great econo car from toyota. :)

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George Soriano

April 25th, 2011 at 7:41 pm

I have scanned around for this type of cars but I would just like to share with you my experience. My Honda was good but cost of maintenance really killed me. Pang porma lan yun. I just found out that the 5-years warranty of Hyundai Accent does comes with several conditions and spare parts are high priced. My KIA almost killed me when my brakes failed and I slammed into an armored car.

But when I had my 2004 Vios it never gave me any problems. My regret is that when I sold it to my balikbayan friend last December 2010. She loved it so much that she kept it in the Philippines even when went back to the US.

I am now getting another Vios and I agree with the writer about its’ review. It is not that sporty or maporma but it is reliable to get you to anywhere you want to go and it won’t hurt your wallet.

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ndrewoods

May 5th, 2011 at 5:21 pm

Well that was a good review. I got a question for you guys, does people in the Philippines use Toyota more than any other brand? And do you have auto parts store where to buy Toyota OEM parts or do you order internationally.

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    jerax08

    June 1st, 2011 at 6:26 pm

    i had never seen toyota in bohol..

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Al

May 25th, 2011 at 7:53 am

@ndrewoods:

Toyota’s are abundant here. Anywhere you look, you can bet you would see a Toyota. From private cars, cabs to police vehicles. (Not that other cars are not being used as such. Just citing the variety of classes where Toyota’s are being used.)

Parts?

We get parts here from a number of sources too.

-Dealer
-Auto parts stores. They sell OEM and Replacement parts. Plenty of them around, some specialize in a specific brand.
-Japanese surplus parts store. A sure hit for someone on a budget or someone “theme-ing” his car.

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miriam santos

May 27th, 2011 at 2:23 pm

static electricity is very common in toyota vios J variant model, it happened to me very often when I’m adjusting the car seat and when closing doors. it was quite painful at times.

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    J. Angelo

    June 6th, 2011 at 12:41 am

    Have your electricals checked. The car might be grounded. Still, I used to experience this everytime I alighted and closed the door with the engine running. As a workaround, I always closed the door by touching a non-metal or painted part like the door handles or the window frame. This issue just went away after some time.

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Ricky

June 2nd, 2011 at 2:27 pm

Got my 08 1.3E Vios last year. I’m using it as my service daily, because of my job. I’ve been a Honda user for more than 8 years. But when I got my 1st Toyota Vios, when I’m driving it (long / short drive), i always feel safe. Believe it or not, 60,+++ kms was my registered ODO. But most of the time people would ask if it is brand new.

Few advice:

a/c compressor – needs a new one. As attested by mechanics that it normally last for 3 years.

Motor Fan – I replaced it already. Normal life is also 3 years.

So try to watch out for this parts. But surely, it wont harm much your wallet. :)

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    J. Angelo Racoma

    October 2nd, 2011 at 9:36 am

    Yup, not really expensive parts. Mahal pag air con parts like condenser and evaporator ang kailangan palitan (and not just the comperssor). Experienced Vios users usually recommend installing a cabin air filter to prevent buildup of dust and other particles in the A/C system.

    I actually experienced a leak under the glove compartment before, and I sometimes hear water flowing when I turn the car left. I used a pump to suck out water from the A/C drain hose in the engine bay, and got a lot of sludge/buildup.

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Marvin Villardo

June 5th, 2011 at 9:39 pm

Mine is 2005 Model E vios. It has no aircon filter/cabin . I just bought an aircon casing (650.00)and a filter(500) from Crusier parts in Sucat, Paranque. Now I have a clean air inside my car. The aircon compressor is still working even in todays hot condition. It is second hand ride but what i get is fuel efficeint but fast car. VIOS FOREVER HE HE

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    J. Angelo

    June 5th, 2011 at 10:00 pm

    I actually made a frame of my own from an old shoebox and used a 3M filtrete filter meant for household A/Cs that cost PhP 200 or so (which can be cut into size for several uses). So far, so good.

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HB Sioson

June 29th, 2011 at 9:48 am

My family and I have always been loyal Honda customers. We have never had car troubles for at least the first 3 or 4 years. Last December, We bought a Vios J matic. It’s everything the review says it to be, except there is an annoying stench coming out of the aircon. Eveytime we turn it on, a foul (maasim) kind of stench comes out. It only goes away after awhile (or maybe our noses just get used to the smell). We don’t understand where it’s coming from. We took it to the dealer but they said they need to hold the car for 2-3 days in order to check the a/c. It’s such a hassle because my kids use the car to go to school. The Vios is a nice and practical car, but this experience of ours seems to be telling us that sometimes the extra you have to pay for the other brand may be worth it.

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    J. Angelo

    June 29th, 2011 at 10:07 am

    Sometimes this stench develops when the condensation tray has not yet fully emptied/evaporated when you turn off the aircon. Do you use air freshener? Some air fresheners (especially the solid ones) cause this. The smell usually goes away after a few minutes of turning on the A/C. Try this:

    - A minute before turning off the car/engine, turn off the A/C thermostat without turning off the fan. This allows the excess water in the condensation tray to evaporate, minimizing or eliminating the smell next time you turn on the A/C.
    - Install a cabin filter. The Vios does not come with a cabin filter, but you can have one installed. This usually costs P1,300 OEM, or you can get a cheaper one from Denso or other A/C shops. I make one myself using 3M filters and a cardboard frame.

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      Joner

      July 24th, 2011 at 10:34 pm

      @jangelo pre san nilalagay ung cabin filter? sa banawe ba kaya nila maginstall nun. sure mawawala yung stench noh

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        J. Angelo Racoma

        July 24th, 2011 at 11:22 pm

        Inside the glove compartment. It’s fairly easy to install. No need to go to Banawe, unless you’re buying the cabin filter there. Simply remove the glove box and access the filter from inside. Check out this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCxrELgf6YQ . You don’t even have to remove screws. Just squeeze either side of the glovebox to release the tabs from the side to remove.

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      Roger

      July 31st, 2011 at 6:10 pm

      Hi Angelo, It seems you’re an expert in Toyota Vios, I have problem with the accelerator even if I fully pressed the gas it will not build RPM and sometime it vibrate due to very low RPM registered, by the way my car is 2008 model E variant.

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        J. Angelo Racoma

        August 4th, 2011 at 10:08 pm

        The 2007 Vios onwards uses drive-by-wire. So the accelerator pedal sends signals to the ECU, which then signals the throttle to rev up the engine. It could either be (1) an issue with the accelerator pedal sensor (2) an ECU issue or (3) problems with the engine itself.

        What you can try for now is to reset the ECU by disconnecting the battery terminals for at least 10 minutes. The ECU usually records driving habits and adjusts engine response accordingly. Removing the battery will reset these to default.

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          Roger

          September 1st, 2011 at 1:02 am

          Thanks… I went to Toyota Marikina to check the engine, according to them” there is a problem in the air sensor bank 1″ and this cause around +6k, is this really the problem, if yes where can I buy the cheaper sensor, I mean is it okey to buy a used parts?

          J. Angelo Racoma

          October 2nd, 2011 at 9:31 am

          Is your car still under warranty?

          J. Angelo Racoma

          October 2nd, 2011 at 9:41 am

          BTW, the air sensor or O2 sensor detects the mix of fuel and air in the combustion chamber, which will make sure fuel ignites properly. If your car is under warranty, maybe you can have the sensor replaced as a defective part (free?). I’m not sure of other reputable shops that can offer cheaper parts, but I’ll look around.

aui

July 24th, 2011 at 11:08 pm

Hi, I intend to purchase a 2nd hand 2010 vios e automatic. It is a repossed car from the bank. However, the key (keyless entry) that the former owner surrenderred is only one. I am afraid that since the other key is still with the former owner the car security is at stake. What will be the remedy on this? Is decoding will be enough to maintain the safety of the car? thanks.

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    J. Angelo Racoma

    July 24th, 2011 at 11:16 pm

    Hi Aui. Toyota only gives you one TVSS key. The spare/duplicate is just a key w/o the remote control. If you want an extra, Toyota can sell you one, but it usually costs around PhP 7,500. Gone are the old days when you got two TVSS keys for each car, sorry.

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      aui

      July 24th, 2011 at 11:38 pm

      Okey but since when they just gave only one (1) TVSS? My friend has two (2) TVSS, they purchased their car 4 years ago. Thanks

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        J. Angelo Racoma

        October 2nd, 2011 at 9:33 am

        Is this the first-generation Vios (or the 1.5 generation facelift)? Those editions had a different alarm system, I believe. Today, “alarms” are just remote unlocking systems, rather than true alarm systems.

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        atlantis

        November 4th, 2011 at 9:44 pm

        hey aui,
        i also got vios 1.3 E A/T 2010 model and it only have 1 TVSS key and the duplicate is w/out remote as j.angelo mentioned.

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Steven

August 30th, 2011 at 3:01 pm

Hi Angelo, we got our vios three weeks ago. Its a 1.3J manual and we are currently having issues with the clutch, we find it difficult to drive because the clutch, is somewhat deep? (mahirap timplahin ang clutch) whenever we drive the vios we fail to drive it smoothly. Is this natural? and by the way we are not beginners, my dad has been driving for 30 years now. well, on my case, maybe you can call me a beginner because I’m used to driving an automatic transmission and I’ve been driving for 3 years only. but still, I do know how to handle the stick. thnx! great article btw! very accurate!

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    Richard

    September 28th, 2011 at 1:39 am

    Hi Steven,

    pareho tayo ng na e-experience. nakakainis.

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    J. Angelo Racoma

    October 2nd, 2011 at 9:32 am

    You can have this adjusted at the casa. Or, actually, any reputable mechanic can do some adjustments on the clutch. It’s a matter of tightening or loosening the adjustment bolt.

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mhylle cabahug

September 19th, 2011 at 11:15 am

hi my brother plans to buy a car this year and I advise him to get na lang Vios (he wants mazda 3 or CRV both 2nd hand). i saw a 1.3 vios 2006 model sa kotse network selling for 350K kaso ang hesitation ni brother eh yung vios daw ng officemate nya inakyat nila sa tagaytay umusok brand new daw yun. any comment on this?

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    J. Angelo Racoma

    October 2nd, 2011 at 9:39 am

    Depends on the unit, actually. I wouldn’t really push a bnew car too, much. If you’re planning to climb steep hills and mountains, best to have your 1K PMS first.

    Mazda3- In my experience, Mazdas are a fun ride, although the interiors and styling are a bit bland.

    CR-V- Great utiltiy, although a gas guzzler!

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ronald

October 2nd, 2011 at 7:57 am

one thing not accurate about this blog is the fuel consumption. My vios 1.3 E manual was delivered only last April 2011. Before I bought it, I read tons of blogs and reviews about it paticularly about the fuel economy which was also my primary consideration. The modest numbers I read is that this car consumes 12-14 km/liter of fuel for city driving. Sadly, my readings are only an average of 7.5km/l and recently around 6.6km/l. I use it everyday to go to work. Ang distance ko lang sa bahay is less than two kilometers. When I called my Toyota service center to complain about it, their reply is much of an honesty opposite to what I was made to believe. Sabi nila talagang nasa 7km/l lang daw ang average ng unit nila for city driving at swerte pa daw ako kung umabot ako ng 8-9km/l. Wow. kung alam ko lang sana ng Honda CIty na lang ako or nag Mitsubishi na lang sana.Tsk,tsk,tsk. Talk about irony.

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    J. Angelo Racoma

    October 2nd, 2011 at 8:54 am

    Hi. Have you had your PMS yet? Vios owners say the fuel efficiency usually improves after 5,000 or 10,000 KM on the odometer.

    Also, what fuel do you use? In my experience, using higher-octane fuel results in better efficiency. For instance, Petron Blaze 100 gets me about 12 KM/L. Premium gets me about 10 KM/L. I know Blaze 100 is more expensive per liter, but considering each liter gets me farther, this makes up for the added per-liter cost (usually ends up cheaper, even).

    It’s also a mixed experience across the different fuel brands. I usually prefer Petron, since their XCS has better pulling power and better efficiency. In contrast, in my experience Shell fuels burn faster.

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      ronald

      October 2nd, 2011 at 9:47 am

      HI angelo. Actually this blog of yours is the last blog that convinced me to buy my VIOS. I have no qualms about its performance except for my issue about the fuel consumption. My ODO reading is only 1,800++ and had my PMS for 1k two months ago. I’m using the extra unleaded 93+ and use the full tank method to measure my FC. Synthetic oil was used on the last PMS. What added insults to injury, is the confirmation of the Toyota guys that the 12-14 km/l is just a myth or a marketing strategy. I’ve used all the techniques to maximize my fuel efficiency but to no avail. It seems that I am stuck with a car for five years that will not fulfill its promise. I’ve heard that someone even won a court case with another dealer after they failed to deliver what was promised in their advertisement regarding the kilometrage per liter.

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        J. Angelo Racoma

        October 6th, 2011 at 10:28 am

        Hi Ronald,

        Sad to hear that. There are a lot of factors that contribute to fuel efficiency, and I would say that the 12-14 Km/L figure cited usually involves a certain combination of driving style, road conditions, fuel used, load, etc. For best results, I would recommend these:

        • - Proper tire inflation. For the Vios E, 33 PSI at front and 30 PSI at the rear (31 if with heavy loads).
        • - Removal of unnecessary load in the trunk.
        • - Fuel type. In my experience Blaze 100 gives me the best fuel efficiency. Even with the expensive per Liter price, the per KM cost often ends up cheaper. Other options include XCS and Caltex Gold. In my experience, Shell fuels burn faster.
        • - Driving style. If you’re using a manual, shift at just the right engine speed (2k to 2.5k RPM, depending on acceleration needed).
        • - Refuelling time. Refuel during early mornings or late night, when the fuel has cooled down enough to be compact.
        • - Air conditioner settings. I usually set the thermostat at 50% when weather is cool enough.

        If your car still suffers from poor fuel efficiency, you can complain. I read that you can get a replacement if your car turns out to be a lemon, but you will have to prove that fuel efficiency is really really poor for the vehicle model.

        But since your car is still at 1,800 KM+, I would recommend waiting until about 5K to see if it really performs badly in terms of fuel efficiency.

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          ronald

          October 8th, 2011 at 10:10 am

          many many thanks! i’ll try it. will visit their service center later.they will not charge me daw for the testing.

          Pawpaw

          November 19th, 2011 at 11:48 am

          Hi Angelo,

          I just want to confirm if the front tires really are 33 psi?
          Coz in the manual it states 32 psi.
          And is the 1 psi difference already big?

          thanks!

Ron

October 6th, 2011 at 10:12 am

Love your very very detailed review. I own a 1.3e and very happy with it. :)

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    J. Angelo Racoma

    November 17th, 2011 at 8:58 am

    Thanks! Do you have the same model, or the newer one (AT?)?

    Reply

dexter

October 21st, 2011 at 4:22 am

Hi

yes. 11km for me using shell unleaded fuel save. I will try blaze sometime. Thanks for the tip.

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Pawpaw

October 27th, 2011 at 11:24 am

Hi everyone,
Just wanna ask how much did you spend on your first 5k PMS?
Did you use a Fully-synthetic oil or the other one?
What other services were done aside from the change oil?

Thank you!

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    ronald

    October 31st, 2011 at 1:51 pm

    Hi Pawpaw

    I had my changed oil on my 1k PMS. They used synthetic and cost me P3500.00. Toyota said I can have my change oil at 10k since I’ve used a synthetic.

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      Pawpaw

      November 8th, 2011 at 10:23 am

      Hi Ronald

      I also had my 5k PMS 2 weeks ago. I only spent around P1,040 :D
      I’m only using an ordinary mineral oil.
      Thank you for the reply! :D

      Reply

Flan

November 1st, 2011 at 3:03 pm

Im convinced..just got my new vios E variant..Planning of having a break inn drive of about 2 thousand kilometers..Manila to Tacloban and back..any advice?

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    J. Angelo Racoma

    November 8th, 2011 at 10:32 am

    My advice – wait until your 1K PMS before you do any long driving. Or, you can have it advanced (even before 1K) since the factory-installed fluids might already be spent or low when you do the drive.

    Reply

      Flan

      November 17th, 2011 at 6:34 pm

      Thanks..

      Reply

mikel

November 8th, 2011 at 6:56 pm

how much is the evaporator of toyota altis 2006

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Wendell

November 10th, 2011 at 11:27 pm

Hi, thanks for this blog. Now, i have made up my mind to buy a Vios 1.3E, as planned. If i have querries, please guide me ha. We’re planning to avail it this December, could anyone recommend me where to purchase? Im willing to have a DP of 250K, how much would be my monthly amort for 5 years? Please advise. Thanks

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    Flan

    November 17th, 2011 at 11:30 pm

    Hi wendel, its flan,,Im paying amortization of exactly P13,456.00 a month for 5 years on a 20% downpayment..Since you are planning to have 250k down payment and thats almost 50% , so i gues youll be paying a rough estimate of about 8K to 9K a month for 5 years..Nevertheless, its still best to have a quotation from a dealer.

    Reply

      Wendell

      November 30th, 2011 at 9:01 am

      Thanks Flan…

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